If pregnancy, birth and motherhood are not living up to the ideals you imagined and you're experiencing way less sleep and way more difficulties than you bargained for, this episode is for you. Even if that's not your situation, there is lots to learn here. 

In this episode Catherine interviews Sarah Page about the gruelling glory and redemption she experienced in the transition from monastic prayer warrior to severely sleep-deprived mother of a suffering baby, and then stepping into the balance between the two as they've grown up, with lessons learned and a call to the church to do it differently.

It's a story of when dreams and expectations don't end up lining up with reality, and the choice to either let them go, or live with them being ripped from you. The God who is there in both the bad and the good.

It's one woman's very personal, difficult story. And a universal story about finding -- and being found by -- God, during difficult times. Inside and outside of church.

Content warning for pregnancy/birth/breastfeeding, birth trauma, miscarriage, and a baby that would not stop screaming.

This is the third in our series on personality, users the lens of the Myers-Briggs model. This time, Catherine is joined by Sean Kennedy to discuss thinking and feeling. How do you process information? When faced with a situation, do you work out what you think about it before you decide what you feel about it? Or are you one of those people who doesn't know what they think about something until they've understood what they feel about it? What difference might that make to your life, your relationships with others and the way you like to work?

While studying theology, Katie discovered that there were women and women's movements in church history that she knew nothing about. Incredible, creative, humanitarians, writers and revolutionaries who have been largely forgotten. People like Julian of Norwich, whose writings only survived because they were hidden by nuns for centuries. Desert mothers, Marie D'Oignies and the Beguines. Katie shares her discoveries, the way her learning has given her insights into the lives of women today and her passion for supporting the women around her. 

Ever had a reaction that seemed really out of proportion to the situation at hand? Or a fear that you knew was irrational? Ever wondered why your inner voice can be so darn critical at times? 

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In this episode Catherine talks with Sally Bubbers, a psychotherapist, who answers all these questions and more as she explains the Parts Theory of Internal Family Systems. A slightly shorter episode, but dense with food for thought, delivered with Catherine's usual welcome, grace and good humour. Definitely one you do not want to miss!